Nursing Uncharted Ep. 101 - Part 2: Unlocking Mobility – A Nurse’s Guide to Fitness and Wellness with Hailey Abell
In this second part of the series of “Unlocking Mobility,” we dive into the critical role of mobility and fitness in the nursing profession. Hailey Abell, a physical trainer dedicated to helping nurses prioritize their health, shares practical tips and routines designed to fit seamlessly into busy schedules.
This episode highlights the importance of breathing techniques, core strength, and self-love, showing how intentional self-care can enhance personal well-being and the ability to care for others.
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We Discuss
00:00 The Importance of Mobility in Nursing
02:48 Breathing and Movement: A Holistic Approach
06:00 Core Strength and Spine Health
08:58 Self-Love and Mental Health in Nursing
11:59 Building a Supportive Community
15:09 Practical Mobility Routines for Everyday Life
18:01 The Journey of Self-Improvement
21:06 Conclusion and Future Steps
Tune in as we explore the journey of self-improvement and holistic health with Hailey Abell. Whether you're a nurse or simply looking to improve your mobility and well-being, this episode is full of actionable insights and inspiration.
Guest Bio:
Hailey Abell is a certified personal trainer and fitness enthusiast who transitioned from a corporate career to pursue her passion for health and wellness. With a focus on helping busy professionals, especially nurses, Hailey emphasizes the importance of body awareness, strength, and mobility in achieving overall well-being.
Transcript:
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Hey guys. Welcome back to another episode of Nursing Uncharted. This is part two of our amazing episode with Hayley, the physical trainer who dove deep into why physical fitness is important in our everyday life. Part two will dive even deeper into what those moves actually look like, and how to make it work in your everyday life. Where do we start?
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And you said like the the mobility. And you know, just the you had mentioned you have like a go to mobility. Yeah. Set. And like I think that for nurses getting just started that is a good place to start because you don't have the time excuse and you don't have, you know, five minutes. Yeah. So I would I would love if you would kind of dive into that and like, you know what that is and what you recommend.
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So it's the warm up that I have done for years because it's really it hits your full body. It's the warm out that most of my clients do like they now have all been with me for a year that I'm like, you know, yeah, I don't have to be here to hold your hand to do it. You can do it.
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And like, you can get started and we can actually get started at the top of the hour. So it's five moves. There's obviously ways that you can kind of layer onto these things like that. I'll kind of do it throughout my workout, but it's a squat. So do ten squats and like really do it in front of a mirror.
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Which is the most uncomfortable thing for people to do, is watch themselves doing something and it may deter them away. So if that's not your thing, like the other piece that I will say, just kind of like an asterix here is whatever you plan to do, because this all comes with planning. Like you're not just like going to hop out of bed one morning.
00:01:37:01 - 00:01:53:08
I'm like, okay, let me do this mobility routine. If you've never done it before. Like we have to be intentional about our planning with it. But ten squats and the reason I say check your form is because if you're just kind of like bouncing through them and you're not really like, be intentional about what you're doing. So you actually get some benefit out of it.
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But do ten squats and then touch your toes. So you do your ten squats and you stand straight up. And if you can't reach for your toes, knees, shins, ankles, whatever you can reach for. And if you have the mobility which is is the hard part. And see if I can kind of. So if you're whatever you're reaching for as you're bent over it, then you're just going to extend up and kind of twist through.
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So I don't know if I should actually like put a camera or not. Like one like you twist to the side. So yeah, like a cord twist essentially. Yeah. So you would be like down like so reach for and then twist up and up. Yeah. You might not get all the way. You might just like do an elbow because the arm might be a little bit too much.
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So those are all reaching for your toes too. Yeah exactly. And so at least reach for your toes. Hold that. You can come out of it kind of as needed. But reaching for your toes for at least a minute, like if you're just doing it for like four seconds and then come out of it, your body's never going to have that time to adapt.
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During all of these, just focus on your breathing. It's the hardest thing. People always want to hold their breath during all this stuff. But the more that you time movement with your breathing, which is a huge part of like the potty practice, the easier it will get. When you hold your breath. Your body's like going into a state of like, you know, fight or flight, essentially.
00:03:07:05 - 00:03:25:16
So like let your body breathe. So that way the movement gets easier and your breath will help send like a signal from your brain to your muscles to relax like it's a very scientific it is hard to breathe during this. Like, yeah, you know, and I feel. Yeah. And I feel like I'm not the most athletic person. But I do take this seriously.
00:03:25:16 - 00:03:44:12
And sure, even when I'm stretching and I'm in pain, I hold my breath and like, I'll have some of the trainers be like, start breathing. Like literally. Okay, everyone. And you do. You can get further like, you can get more into it. You're you relax and it does it does help. Like every exhale is like regulating your nervous system.
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So just think of it that way. Like when you're feeling anxious in it, the more that you focus on the breathing and especially that exhale like letting that energy go, the more you're just going to feel in a relaxed state, it's going to it's going to be hard at first. None of this is easy at first. Like, again, the steps are simple, but that doesn't mean it's easy to do because you have to get the mind set there.
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You have to get your body there. If you're tight and stiff, like it's not going to be an enjoyable process. But we have to think long term light at the end of the tunnel. The more you do it, the easier it becomes. It's like anything in life when none of us are pro. I'm still not a pro. I will never be a pro.
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I'm going to be learning about all this stuff for the rest of my life. But like, that's the goal. The more I learn, the more I grow, the better we get as humans. So squat, touch your toes. Second one is a plank to a downward dog. So ideally you would go straight. So you do your ten squats.
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Go straight into reaching for the toes. Hold that for a minute. While you're reaching for the toes, just walk straight out to a plank. So you're so it's all a flow. You're like move at each movement leads you into in the next one. So you hold your playing for a full inhale. Exhale one inhale exhale should take you about eight to 10s.
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So it's not. And then you're and you're down dog. It's a inhale for four. Hold it exhale for four. And as you exhale then you go into that downward dog. And again you hold that for a full breath for eight to 10s. So a lot of this and it like a lot of my clients speed racing through it and I'm like okay.
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And now I count. So now I'm you know now that I'm counting you're not. And yeah, I'm like, I sound so annoying half the time. And like, I make it fun, obviously. And I kind of like there's like a little bit of banter that goes into this. I'm like, if you're going too fast or if you if you've ever thought that you were going slow, it's like the same concept that we talked about at this wedding as you're walking down the aisle, if you ever think that you're walking slow, slow down, walk slower.
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So it's the same thing. You know, if you think that it's happening slow, like go a little bit slower. So plank for a full breath. Downward dog for full breath. And you do that five times okay. Straight from there. You're already hands on the ground straight to cat cow. So just drop to the knees. Make sure that I need those right now.
00:06:00:23 - 00:06:19:20
Literally same. My lower back is killing my grass. We were we flew back from Mexico yesterday and this whole routine. I did not do it last night because I was a dead person last night. But this morning as I like got up before breakfast, I was like, here we go. I mean, there's about this like, oh, my back is killing me today.
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And Cat cow. Most people that extension part when you're really arching. That's the part that people want to speed race through. Because we sit in a society where we're like, we're hunched over. So we're in a really extending your spine and getting more of like that U-shape. So think of your tailbone and crown of the head going up to the sky.
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Hold that for another eight to 10s so it's again, every single one of these is timing with your breath and your movement. So do the arch for a full eight to 10s full Brad's full inhale exhale and then always like switch that on the exhale. So as you're exhaling and reaching the end of that 4 to 5 seconds go into like your cow and hold that arm and it should feel nice.
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It might feel uncomfortable. But again as you're breathing you can hold these for longer. Like I would prefer not shorter, but hold them for longer. That's going to be great for you. And another five of those. So it's ten squats a minute of reaching for your toes five plank to downward dog. So a lot of core engagement with a plank too because you're really engaging the core.
00:07:23:19 - 00:07:45:15
And then you're really stretching from like I mean you're in an upside down. You're in a little tippy position. So you're you're getting from heels to the crown of the head, a full stretch there, cat, cow, all about the spine. And then world's greatest stretch. So you may do your five cat cow finish last one, pull one leg forward.
00:07:45:20 - 00:08:00:07
So you're kind of in this, like low lunge position. And you want like from knee to knee, which this part I will actually have to put on my social media. So that way we can say this is kind of nice. You just run through each of that would be a nice video for people to refer back to for sure.
00:08:00:07 - 00:08:17:13
I'll try. Maybe I'll try and do that today, actually. Yeah. So world's greatest stretch. It's I've actually a lot of my clients because I have them do this. They'll say like I saw a study on the world's greatest stretch and it really is the world's greatest stretch. I'm like, they called that for a reason here now. So basically, let's say you take your left leg back first.
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So your right leg is forward, left leg is back, and you're really wanting to sink into your hips. So like think about pushing your hips forward. Your both your hands are going to start on the inside of that front right knee. And then you're going to really shift the weight to your left hand. So that way you can send your right arm open and you're opening your chest towards that front right knee.
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Yeah. Because then that way spine health is also a huge thing. Core mobility, these things all go hand in hand, like twisting through our spines, like our spines are meant to bend forward, extend backwards, bend side to side, twist. So getting all of that movement and throughout this warm up, it kind of hits all of those. And do you do five each side or how many do you do.
00:09:01:13 - 00:09:20:21
Yeah that I'll do. Yeah. Usually five each side okay. Yeah I think this is a really good way to start your day, especially for, for nurses because we are especially those nurses out there in adult ICUs. People are full payers and you're having to lift and pull and push and do all the things. This is a way to really move that spine.
00:09:20:21 - 00:09:45:07
And like talking about this, I'm like just thinking about my spine and how much my spine hurts right now. Yeah. And just like touch base on like how how important your spine is, it's like it's crazy. Like, I think our spine health is arguably one of the. There's actually this phrase that I forget exactly who said it, but you are as young as your spine is healthy and like, oh, if you think about that.
00:09:45:07 - 00:10:04:22
Like, that's a pretty powerful statement. Like, and I say that to anyone who will listen. So if you think about that, like if you you can be the best athlete in the world, but if you don't have like a flexible spine and one that bends with you and moves with you, not against you, like you're you're kind of not in the best spot.
00:10:04:22 - 00:10:24:10
I would just say that. And like a lot of what I really preach as well with core strength, like when I talk core, I'm actually talking about your spine. And I eventually kind of like have to explain that to people because people will think, okay, we're training core. It just like, give me the six pack, the superficial abs that like, everyone wants.
00:10:24:10 - 00:10:53:14
Like I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't, you know, I'd be happy with the six pack, but that all comes with like a whole nother mess of just like, calorie deficit. You have to, like, all of, like, visible muscle and especially on your belly where your food is stored. Like, that's just a harder thing to do. So taking away from, I guess, leaning into more of the functionality versus just the esthetic is just more beneficial and functional a long term like the when I was younger.
00:10:53:14 - 00:11:12:07
Sure, I could be doing crunches for a million years, and I was like, all right, I got some abs, like I'm good. But now it's just it's less important. Like it does. Like what is I think there's like a a metric to self-worth that we need to really like make realistic as well. Like abs aren't going to like they're not going to make your life better.
00:11:12:13 - 00:11:28:14
I don't think your mind. Yeah, a healthy spine. That shit's going to save your life. And you feel like. I mean, not that I'm doing things correctly because another aspect of like, yes, Beachbody is great, but no one's watching you. No one's correcting you, right? No one's like. And that's why I like being in front of a mirror.
00:11:28:14 - 00:11:54:23
As difficult as that is, it is a really good powerful. Yeah, it's a really good suggestion. And people should really do that because if you even you posting a video, you being able to like watch yourself. I'm like look at your next to me. Like if you were watching yourself in the mirror, you're going to see like, oh, if I just because you know, with me you can see are your shoulders and then your ears, your arching your back like those little things you you think you're doing it right.
00:11:54:23 - 00:12:13:17
But until you see yourself, you know, you you can't you can't correct that. So. Right. And even like the watching yourself in a mirror, I think is powerful for many reasons. But if like if you're somebody that's very self-conscious about going to the gym, if you can't even watch yourself, how do you think you're ever going to get into the gym to do it?
00:12:13:17 - 00:12:33:06
Yeah. So it's like just become your own bestie, like, you know, like you have to like, we all have to have this, like a level of, like, self-love and self-worth that like, it comes from within. Like, I totally like again, I totally relate to like, the and the gym fear and just like that intimidation. Like I've been there.
00:12:33:10 - 00:13:02:13
So like I totally empathize with that. But that is why I started recording myself. Started like watching my form at home. So that way when I went to the gym, I felt more confident doing it. Yeah. So the mirror is a powerful tool. You just you kind of have to respect something or get over yourself. Yeah. I mean, and that's, that's the whole oh, I'm so glad you said that because that's just like the whole emphasis of what I wanted this year to be because, like, I mean, full disclosure, I don't even know if I told you, but the reason I focus on this is I had a really horrible year last year.
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Oh, really? Just like, you know, my brother had, you know, something really terrible happened. I'm so grateful to hear, like, you know, it was all like, you know, health related genetics really. Like, you know, it's something we sometimes don't have control up. But sure, you know, I had to deal with that. I had to deal with personal relationships falling apart.
00:13:18:14 - 00:13:37:09
And just like I'm like, I felt depleted. And I've never said that at the bedside. I've never not been able to give up anything. And it happened and it was over the littlest thing. And I remember we're human. Going to my charge nurse and being like, I, I'm depleted, I can't. And she looked at me and she's like, what you like?
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And I'm like, I cannot give to this person what they need from me. And that made me be like, okay, I need to change something. So yeah, you know, and that was learning to love myself again. Well, and that's, that's what this all is about. Right. And that's so good on you too to like, acknowledge that because like, so many people are just like, I'm just going to keep going.
00:13:58:12 - 00:14:15:16
Just keep it moving, keep the train moving. And at some point, like I, one of my notes, like in my notes up when I was prepping for this was like stresses the silent killer. Yeah. Like we all know that to be true. So like whether that's a work stress, live stress, like we all have some level of stress.
00:14:15:18 - 00:14:38:09
But as somebody who like when I got to the gym, it was because I was getting out of a a terrible job and a terrible relationship. So like, I was like, I need an outlet and thankfully I that outlet was the gym for me. And but like the level of self-love that you like, I the gym and just working out in general, I say the gym because it's just like physically where I go to.
00:14:38:09 - 00:15:04:00
But I'm working out. Exercise, like this whole lifestyle in general is like the greatest gift of self-love that you can give to yourself, not only to you, but like, the more you give to yourself, like, the more you're able to give to other people like and your life in your profession. Because again, if you're not filling your own cup and prioritizing your own mental, physical, emotional health, and that is going to trickle into other facets of your life, whether you realize it or not.
00:15:04:00 - 00:15:32:18
And like, that's where like some unfortunate, like toxic things can come into play. And if that like level of just like self stress is happening to where like you're battling with self-love, like that is a whole thing that I could really just chat on for like hours on end because we see it everywhere. But like, I'm just such a firm believer, like if you can just give yourself a little bit, just a little dose of love, like whatever you give to like your parents, your children, your pets, your partner, whoever that is.
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Like, give that to yourself. And the way of like a healthy lifestyle, like everything in your life is just going to get so much better. Yeah. And yeah, it's it's so true. And that's oh, I'm so happy you said that because like, yeah, this has been this was kind of like my own whim. Is that like, you know, we talk about what do we want to focus on.
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And I just think as nurses, like we do put ourselves last a lot of the time and, you know, it's hard to even function. And I used to say like, I, when I, when I was younger and I went through like a really bad breakup, which in my 20s and I was like, oh my gosh. Yeah, the sky's falling too terrible, you know.
00:16:09:12 - 00:16:34:04
Right. And I, you know, it was like my colleagues were like, don't come to work like, take some time off. I'm like, no, work is my distraction work, right? Which at that time it was. Yeah, I was young. I was a young nurse. I'm like, whatever. I go there like I do my job, I do this. But when you get into your career and like what you really, truly love doing and want to be successful, and it's not that I didn't want to be successful, I just I was 21, 22 years old.
00:16:34:06 - 00:16:54:21
And it's a different mindset to where you're just a one foot in front of the other. And so it's like, you know, I, I want to be the best version of myself in every aspect of that. And, and knowing that I wasn't it like mental health is, is huge. And, you know, a lot of, a lot of people struggle and we don't talk about it.
00:16:54:21 - 00:17:16:17
And it it just becomes such a horrible thing. And I think when you, you nailed it on the head when you said giving to yourself, what, like a, a portion of what you give. Right. And everyone has someone like Evan or something. I don't care if it's your cat, your dog. Like who? You're literally like caring for something and caring for a planet.
00:17:16:22 - 00:17:39:00
Like, everyone can make an excuse for plant moms, and I. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, you have something to give. You want to see things succeed. That's who we are as people. That's who we are at our core. And, you know, just giving yourself something gives yourself love and loving yourself. Self-love is not selfish. It is and necessary part of like our humanity.
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And I think like we just I don't know, society is just like we're in a weird state of the world right now. And I just think the the more, the more negativity I see, the more it's like, okay, well, how can I how can I practice my own positivity, which is a daily, if not hourly practice. Sometimes, like it's it's hard.
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Like there are days even just like a couple weeks ago. Like I was like really July like that month that we were trying to connect and it was really crazy. Yeah, I was traveling a lot. I got really like I had a horrible cold. I had not worked out for the entire month, July, like some very light stretching, but like I wasn't doing my mobility or anything.
00:18:19:06 - 00:18:36:13
And there was one day, like I was so crabby, like I was just like, I think I'm going to implode. And like, I was definitely taking some out of my boyfriend, God bless him. And he all of a sudden, like, I walked out one day and I came back like the happiest mood. And I was like, oh wait, I'm back.
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I was like, turns out I just need to like, lift some heavy things. I'm like, and here we are, we're back to it. And we joke about that, right? Like we joke about, oh, just go to the gym and lift heavy. Like, take your stress out, pretend it's someone's head. But like, it does help. It works. Really does.
00:18:51:14 - 00:19:16:09
Yeah. It's work. Those endorphins get going and like, there's I forget somebody and I don't know, like there was a doctor that I like, a couple doctors that I have on Instagram that are always talking about this. And I can't regurgitate it quite so eloquently by one of these doctors was saying your muscles quite literally, the only way that they will secrete these specific hormones, and I can't speak to which ones they are, but all they feel good hormones.
00:19:16:09 - 00:19:37:19
Yeah, that you're only going to physically get those benefits if your muscles are contracting. So whether that's going on and not just like a light walk, like, you know, put a little gaslight into it, like walking squat, like whatever you're doing, you need to contract your muscles to physically get those feel good hormones secreted into your body. And then yes, you're in a better mood.
00:19:37:19 - 00:19:54:00
So like and you, we hear this phrase, you'll never regret a workout. Like, you know, the fat. Yeah. What is it on the worst workout is still, like better than, like a goat or I'm totally butchering this, but something like, you're never going to have a bad workout. It's always going to make you feel a little bit better.
00:19:54:02 - 00:20:14:07
Even if you go for five minutes and you're like, okay, like, I'm not really feeling it. Just like, start your warmup, do the mobility routine. And if you still don't feel like doing it, fine. Cut you some slack maybe 1 or 2 times, but eventually you got to bridge that mind mindset hurdle, too. Yeah. I love I love how deep this got.
00:20:14:07 - 00:20:27:17
This took a little bit of a turn that I wasn't expecting it. Yeah. The one thing about me is we're going to get deep. But I love that. And that's like, why I'm so. It was so funny because I like you. And I never met before. You were so busted. And. Yeah. And because I had Sydney come on.
00:20:27:17 - 00:20:43:19
And you work with Sydney and, you know, I was like, who? Who would be good? And she recommended you. And then I asked someone else, and they sweet. And they recommended you. And it's, you know, it's kind of nice when people are just, like, put into your life and, you know, it ends up being such a, a great relationship.
00:20:43:19 - 00:21:07:01
And, and I think that you I wanted this to be more than, okay, wake up in the morning, do this, this and this. Like, yeah. Explain why this is important and why this helps anyone and like, you know, and this is something that I'm going to take back those movements to like to my mom because your knee is bothering her and like, I don't know what to do, but these things you can do, and if you can't do it right away, that's okay.
00:21:07:01 - 00:21:27:18
But yeah, that's kind of the point, right? Five minutes. It's five minutes at the beginning of your day and end of day or pick one and and work up to it. And I think that that's realistic for sure is single person out there. Every single person like even like my sister who's got two small children and like this, I mean, she's like the best mom out there.
00:21:27:18 - 00:21:47:22
Like, her kids are like her absolute priority. And then there's me and CB and like, but who's taking care of mom? Like, losing. And even to my own mother, who's now has, like, all these grandkids that like, they're both thriving like they are. My mom is a wonderful grandmother. My sister is a wonderful mom. So like, that's such like a beautiful thing to see.
00:21:48:00 - 00:22:06:18
But like, I feel like no one's reminding them to take care of themselves. So, like, I'm going to be the annoying auntie. That's like, okay, but who's taken care of, like, my mom and my sister? Because, like, you guys are still my important people and like, yes, you're taking care of all these little babies, but like, the baby's watching you also take care of yourself is great.
00:22:06:18 - 00:22:24:03
Like foundations for then because they see you prioritize. You're so just like my story with my mom. Like I just like. Exactly. You know, I didn't I like I always remembered her doing that. But until we talked about this, it's like, oh my gosh. Like that was her taking them time for herself. Yeah. And it was I remember I remember this.
00:22:24:03 - 00:22:36:06
She's like, well, I've always wanted to be able to touch my toes. So every time I would run your bath at night, I would just continue to try to touch you. I know, yeah, I know, it's amazing. I know, like, it's just like, that's so. And I'm just like, oh, I can't wait to, like, call my mom after this if you like.
00:22:36:08 - 00:22:59:01
I talked about your mom. Right. And it's like such a beautiful thing too, because if you think about like, just humans inherently like we once we accomplish something like, we're like, okay, well, what's next? At least like most people I surround myself with, I kind of feel that way. Like it's yeah, whether that's workout, professional relationship, like, I mean even using like, oh we, we made one successful kid.
00:22:59:01 - 00:23:15:04
Like, how about a second one, you know, like you can kind of apply that to anything. So even that's the type of mindset you have in other aspects of your life. Do your five minute morning nighttime mobility routine. And I promise you you're going to be like, okay, what else do I need to do? Yeah, what else can I do?
00:23:15:05 - 00:23:36:05
How now that this feels good and I've gotten myself to a good point with this, what else can I do to make myself feel better? Where can I find the community of people that are like minded, or that people in my life? Like maybe I could help them with those too, like get your husband or your sibling or your parent to do it with you or, you know, so there's there's a lot of power in community for sure.
00:23:36:11 - 00:23:58:10
There is. Well, thank you so much. I really this was this was great. And like I said, we touched on so many more important things. And I thought that we I thought that we would, but I yeah, you know, I think it would be good to have like those videos and, you know, just even if you wanted like just like a sample thing for someone to, to do on the road, like a travel nurse to do on the road would be, would be great.
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But I definitely think you have a lot more to share with this community, and we might definitely have already. We've already invested an hour of our time into it. Yeah, I think this may mean we need to find another. I'm I'm already I mean, that's the thing about like, this stuff is like where I started was like free content, like through social media and podcasts and whatever, like YouTube, like whatever.
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It can be like that. Again, that's a beautiful part of like social media today. So like, we got to lean into it. So I'm here for whatever, whatever you want for your community. I'm happy to help and thank you. Been great. Yes. And we'll definitely send everyone your way on your Instagram. And, you know, yeah, you can definitely help influence many, many nurses and people out there.
00:24:39:10 - 00:24:48:04
So thank you so much. Thank you for having me.
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